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[Toque]

They still open up in early December. It is just that the terrain is limited. Some resorts opened up in early November last year.
In most places though you need more than a metre of snow to cover up the sasa to be able to get into the trees and have some fun.

[big-will]

Toque you don't seem to be able to accept this.

From what I remember, many resorts in Yuzawa a number of years back were fully open by mid-December. Not just parts --- fully open.

The season opening and the first real snows have been gradually getting later and later, and resorts have gradually been planning their openings to be later and later.

[Toque]

All right BigW
I trust in your knowledge that the resorts fully opened 5 years ago. Kagura was fully open at the beginning of the season this year as well. Maybe even just before Christmas. Doesn't mean you can ski all the terrain though.

I am saying though and I really don't want this to turn into a debate because there are better things to do that if you plan your vacation early/mid december on the data from years back there is a chance that it might not be so good. Weather is a funny thing. Even 10-20 years ago there were bad seasons.


Where is SnowConnection?
At least when I go back and forth with him it's about something interesting

[big-will]

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Doesn't mean you can ski all the terrain though

Well, er, you could actually.

Weather is a funny thing yes. The point I was putting across was that in Japan, a - good - early December start to the season at lots of places was normal. And it is not now.

I'm getting bored of this particular argument as well (esp. of you not accepting this).

[Toque]

Alright then


Let's hope for an early (normal) season for next year

[big-will]

Yes lets.

[Toque]

Ah shit
I got the 24th post
Nobody will read mine

But I can try and get the last word

[Fattwins]

Big will ive been in and out of here sking for ten years. the first season 10 years back saw the whole resort open with a 1.5meter base. the next season saw the resort open with a few cms. That season didnt really get going until late january. we had a wicked year 3 years ago but for the most part the snow starts falling in bucket sometime in DEC. Japan needs a 1.5 meter base before you can ski any trees or open meadows. No matter how far you look back resorts wouldnt be opening with much base in December in most places. Wih the advent of snowmaking Id say we are opening earlier.

[big-will]

"We" seems a rather blanket statement for a rather large area, ie Japan. (I presume that's what you meant)

Say what you like, but I have skied fully opened resorts in Yuzawa in mid-December.

The season in Yuzawa is starting later than it used to. That is a fact.

I'm retiring from this thread now, so feel free to continue saying the facts are wrong......

[Fattwins]

I didnt say that you didnt do it B-W what i said was that it is not always the case. Look at any resort and you see the same things.

Sun peaks first year could ski the whole mountain in early nov, and not open yet.
next season the whole mountain didnt open till
january.

Kawaba 1995/96 whole mountain open by early dec.
next season early January and even then the trees were poo.

Happo Dec 27th 1998/99 3/4 of the mountain open no tree sking, kawaba same time except 2 runs only open.

2000/2001 no snow till the 19th of Dec at happo after that it dumps 2 weeks straight and the whole mountain is opened 25th of Dec to pow hounds.

We get the crazy 2001/2002 season eveything open late Nov.

this season everything opened but only on January 1st.

I could quote more.