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[Black Mountain]

I'm surprised they haven't sorted it out yet... up until 3 years ago we used to ski both resorts on one ticket without a problem. When I was there two years ago they started checking tickets and I heard rumors from other people that there was a problem between the resorts (although I never encountered one). I'm not sure about last year because I wasn't able to make it up there.

Can anyone confirm that Kanko and Onsen still haven't sorted out a joint ticket?

[SKI]

Originally Posted By: JA

Originally Posted By: SKI

The bus is ok but it doesn't make Akakura Onsen and Akakura Kanko 'friends'.

Didn't need the bus to get between the two

I can't recall ever suggesting that you needed to take a bus.

[SKI]

Originally Posted By: Black Mountain

I'm surprised they haven't sorted it out yet... up until 3 years ago we used to ski both resorts on one ticket without a problem. When I was there two years ago they started checking tickets and I heard rumors from other people that there was a problem between the resorts (although I never encountered one). I'm not sure about last year because I wasn't able to make it up there.

Can anyone confirm that Kanko and Onsen still haven't sorted out a joint ticket?

There is a ticket as JA said that lets you on all 4 resorts now.

But still, they have their individual tickets and if you just ask for a 1 day that is what you'll get by default.

They fight rather than co-operate, by default.

[SKI]

Mt Myoko ticket it is called, 4500 yen a day.

[Black Mountain]

Thanks Ski,

I visited the Kanko and Onsen websites to get a better idea of the situation. It seems that they actually have a joint ticket now called the Myoko Kogen Akakura Snow Area ticket for 4800Â¥ that allows you to ride both Kanko and Onsen together.

The Mt. Myoko ticket (4500Â¥) apparently doesn't work at Akakura Onsen. I was also told the same thing two years ago. The ticket is for Suginohara, Ikenotaira, Akakura Kanko. Onsen also seems to be left off of the season passes.

There is also something new this year called the Myoko Mega Mount ticket. It covers 8 resorts Suginohara, Onsen, Kanko, Ikenotaira, Ski Park, Kyukamura Myoko, Madarao Kogen and Tangram Ski Circus. It's insanely cheap during the week at 7,000 for accommodation, lift pass and 2 meal tickets (or 8,800Â¥ for accommodation, 2 lift passes and 2 meal tickets). Weekends you pay an extra 2000Â¥

The only mention of "The Big 4" on any of the websites is for a season's pass that cover four areas for 60,000Â¥

Well, at least Onsen and Kanko have worked something out with a joint ticket.

[iiyamadude]

In conclusion, it's a bit of a mess and not easy for people to grasp.

They need to get their act together.

[SKI]

Originally Posted By: Black Mountain

Thanks Ski,

I visited the Kanko and Onsen websites to get a better idea of the situation. It seems that they actually have a joint ticket now called the Myoko Kogen Akakura Snow Area ticket for 4800Â¥ that allows you to ride both Kanko and Onsen together.

The Mt. Myoko ticket (4500Â¥) apparently doesn't work at Akakura Onsen. I was also told the same thing two years ago. The ticket is for Suginohara, Ikenotaira, Akakura Kanko. Onsen also seems to be left off of the season passes.

There is also something new this year called the Myoko Mega Mount ticket. It covers 8 resorts Suginohara, Onsen, Kanko, Ikenotaira, Ski Park, Kyukamura Myoko, Madarao Kogen and Tangram Ski Circus. It's insanely cheap during the week at 7,000 for accommodation, lift pass and 2 meal tickets (or 8,800Â¥ for accommodation, 2 lift passes and 2 meal tickets). Weekends you pay an extra 2000Â¥

The only mention of "The Big 4" on any of the websites is for a season's pass that cover four areas for 60,000Â¥

Well, at least Onsen and Kanko have worked something out with a joint ticket.

I was just looking myself and learned more, not as simple as I posted earlier sorry.

It's really not very clear at all is it.

I wonder why Onsen are not on that Mt Myoko ticket.

[Black Mountain]

Originally Posted By: SKI

I wonder why Onsen are not on that Mt Myoko ticket.

Right?! I remember when I was talking to the staff at Akakura Kanko two years ago I can't believe what she was telling me. I had her repeat to me several times... and even write it down because I thought for some reason I suddenly couldn't understand Japanese! Having things that confusing can't be good for business.

[muikabochi]

Definitely confusing.

[Jynxx]

When I went there long time ago, Akakura was one resort.

[tokabochi]

I'm pretty sure that the Akakura part of Myoko is actually quite a few small place stuck together. You know, like Zao and Happo and Ishiuchi with numerous owners each jostling for position. Tons of complicated local politics.

[r45]

Sounds like the sort of situation that takes a committee of 20 to make a simple decision. Imagine all those hankos

[JA]

Originally Posted By: SKI

Originally Posted By: Black Mountain

Thanks Ski,

I visited the Kanko and Onsen websites to get a better idea of the situation. It seems that they actually have a joint ticket now called the Myoko Kogen Akakura Snow Area ticket for 4800Â¥ that allows you to ride both Kanko and Onsen together.

The Mt. Myoko ticket (4500Â¥) apparently doesn't work at Akakura Onsen. I was also told the same thing two years ago. The ticket is for Suginohara, Ikenotaira, Akakura Kanko. Onsen also seems to be left off of the season passes.

There is also something new this year called the Myoko Mega Mount ticket. It covers 8 resorts Suginohara, Onsen, Kanko, Ikenotaira, Ski Park, Kyukamura Myoko, Madarao Kogen and Tangram Ski Circus. It's insanely cheap during the week at 7,000 for accommodation, lift pass and 2 meal tickets (or 8,800Â¥ for accommodation, 2 lift passes and 2 meal tickets). Weekends you pay an extra 2000Â¥

The only mention of "The Big 4" on any of the websites is for a season's pass that cover four areas for 60,000Â¥

Well, at least Onsen and Kanko have worked something out with a joint ticket.

I was just looking myself and learned more, not as simple as I posted earlier sorry.

It's really not very clear at all is it.

I wonder why Onsen are not on that Mt Myoko ticket.

We got "big4" ticket vouchers at our hotel, ski to the ticket box, exchange for a MtMyoko ticket (I have one sitting here as I type this) It allowed us to ski Akakura Onsen, Akakura Kanko, Ikenotaira and Suginohara. No dramas at any of them. A couple of times, we bussed to Suginohara, exchanged the voucher there, and slid on 3 of the 4 resorts over the course of the day.

I dunno what youse guys are on about!

[SKI]

We're on about the reality of the set up in Myoko.

You were fortunate enough to have a smooth experience, likely because of the place you stayed at.

[Black Mountain]

The Big 4 Ticket doesn't appear on a single one of the resort websites in Myoko. That ticket could very well have been a special that is only offered at certain accommodations (probably the more expensive ones). Everything I posted about the types of tickets was information I gathered from the resort websites. If other tickets exist but no information is provided about them anywhere it points to an even bigger problem with the resorts' organizational skills.

Don't get me wrong JA, I love Myoko Kogen and have probably spent over 50 days on the hills there over the years but that doesn't change the fact that they don't have their act together. The number of closed hotels and shops in the area points to problems as well...

[Jynxx]

Which hotel did you stay at JA ?

[brit-gob]

It may have been one of those "only for foreigners" special things set up by some places, that my Japanese friends don't like!

[ippy]

right, i should be coming on and around the 17th-27th

Anyone know of cheap dirt bag accommodation? I remember ikenotaira welcome center place having some kind of deal on a few years back for cheap stay there, but dunno now?

Help a brother out. Im KILLING my postgrad fund (that i havent ever managed to save a penny for in ooooh.. 7 years now?), so yeah, it needs to be scumbag accommodation.

If the worst comes to the worst ill just kip at the net cafe during the week in nagano (though not the weekend, that rnb club BLOWS when youre trying to sleep at the weekend), but naturally i dont need any more disincentives to ride Im a master for avoiding snow when its right there

[Longtime Myoko-er]

Lovely photos muikabochi as always, some great ones this season too I see.

[Mick Rich]

I'm hoping that it looks as good and more importantly, there's still some snow left to ride by the time I arrive on the 22nd!