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Hi everybody,

As you guys probably know, I'm really big on the second hand boards but I've managed to get myself an invitation to the Burton family sale this year so I'm seriously considering picking up a new new board. The last time I bought a board that wasn't deadstock or second hand was in 2000! I'm eyeing up a Burton Nug 142. I've never ridden rocker before so I figure this would be a good start but I wanted to hear the opinions of people who had ridden the downsized boards such the Nug or the Rome Shank or the Rossignol Mini. Supposedly you can go down 10 cms in length and I normally ride a 152. This seems pretty radical to me but from what I can gather from the net is that its just shorter but rides basically the same as a longer board. Anybody on SJ have any experience on one of these boards?

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Look what came in the mail today!

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View Postygrene, on 16 October 2014 - 06:41 PM, said:

Look what came in the mail today!


Your nenkin bill?
Congratulations, I guess.

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Selling their family?

Didn't realise times were that hard for Burton et al.

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View PostPeetan, on 16 October 2014 - 07:44 PM, said:

Selling their family?

Didn't realise times were that hard for Burton et al.

Jake will do anything to make a buck.

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Its fine to hate on Burton, certainly I've done my share too but being the massive gear whore that I am, no way am I going to ignore a 50% off sale.

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haha I'm just kidding really, I love my burton gear.

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50% off??? where does one sign up to get these family and friends invitation things

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Basically you need to know someone who works there as its a sale for employees and their families.

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ahhhh I guess i should make friends with a person who works for burton and other snow brands haha

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I don't actually know anybody there but I've lucked out this year as my better half just happened to work with a temp guy who went back there afterwards.

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Bought a nug flying V of a guy who rode it all year in Oz he loved it he said he even managed to do 93KMH straight lining.
I on sold it but bought a brand new fishcuit and it looks awesome

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Awesome, I think I'm ready to pull the trigger on one, although I'm looking at the completely flat rocker one rather the the camrock flying V. Fingers crossed they have one in my size when I get there.

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Currently in the Burton outlet shop in Kanuizawa and they have a Button Nug 142 for 40,600 yen

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Thanks for the heads up Onehunga, if I can't get one next week at the Shibuya store, I'm gonna consider my options.

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i HATE and DETEST boards that are too small for me.

Its not downsizing though. Its just 156-158 = sweet spot.

Anything smaller and i will blame that ride for every wipe or wash that comes my way. Ill then convince myself that the board is a piece of shit, cant be trusted and utterly dangerous. Ill then flip it for something else.

I aint no park rat though :) Enjoy your new wheels!

What, i dont care if this thread ended up being some Burton love in! If i want to talk about downsizing, im going to talk about downsizing.

Its stupid. ****ing pointless. And i still cannot understand why anyone would bother with it UNLESS they really really really want less pop, less stability and less control to their ride. Ah, a good old 2009 argument. I mean, in 2009 i understood it. Camber was your options. Downsizing meant still two contacts, a bit of stability, a comparatively softer and easier to wreck flex, and no heavy tail or tip to get on your rai... oh wait! blunts already existed. Honestly. Seriously. if i think about this even for a minute i feel like my brain will go blue screen of death and ill have to boot up in safe mode.

Downsizing rocker though is the one that always gets my head in a loop. Why would you even bother? Blunts exist, rocker exists, noodles abound! Its madness! Its like riding a womans board if youre a guy because you want a softer torsional flex. Those board EXIST and you dont have to do a bazillion calculations iniside your head to try and aproximate if the damn thing will ride the way it says it will.

Actually truth be told i couldnt care less. Im just practicing getting in the habit ranting about tech. As you can see, my hearts just not in it anymore. I might have to quietly skulk off and leave the tech discussions to Tubby and the like :p

Has anything fun happened at all this year (or last year) with tech? As far as i can see, Blauvelt and ride still havent added pop-walls to my board, Until they do, they aint getting another penny out of me. I NEEEEEED them RIDE!!! when i set back my zerker it turns to a sluggish piece of crap. When i center it, its raving. But when i center it in kagura it sinks :( Give me pop walls and be snappy about it!

There, thats the only thing ive got left to complain about. And its a three year old complaint. Sorry for the thread crap, but i need to keep in practice. Ive been getting lazy in the forums during off season!
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I pre-scrolled and it's not too long! :p

Ok.....so I read it....dude you put waaay too much thinking into the "tech"....I'm way too cynical to believe that the "tech" has any real or noticeable difference to regular riding chumps like ourselves! That said I'm with u on riding short.....I simply don't believe it works especially being on the heavier side of things...not that i've actually ridden a short. I would like to try a Fish.....for research purposes of course!!
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you talking about pop walls? I promise you man, the Highlife UL was a tank. It was literally hulk smash and would have been the worlds most boring plank of wood were it not for the pop walls. It reminded me a lot of my quiver killer. Fast, would pop to the moon if you loaded it right, but if you dont: draining, exhausting and 1 dimensional.

They just gave that board so much fun cheating/lazy energy by adding pop walls. If i had to load that thing all day without the popwalls id have been knackered after an hour. Nothing worse than trying to load something like that when your in hour three, youre hitting some fun rollers and every time you put the energy in, you get this lame hobble anti-pop. its LITERALLY anti-pop. You felt it load, then you felt you pull the board up with the strength of your little quads, and the board barely squeeks off the snow. GAH!!! it still burns!!! FURANO!!!!!!

Pop walls were so effortless, so cheat mode, that you could actually enjoy one of those tanks without having to sacrifice your legs for the pleasure of the incredibly rare moment of BLISSFUL, weightless, perfect air, You can try all day to the point of exhaustion for real nutritious and healthy pop, and then when youre knackered just go cheat mode and bounce around on everything with all that fake delicious e-number pop. It was great. It made that tank versatile. And all i could think was "hozzanah! they have solved the problem of setting back my berzerker! now it will truly be that kill it absolutely everywhere board i always knew it could be!!!"

But they havent because they get all worried that it'll be too close to the Highlife as if theyve completely forgotten that i ****ing hated the highlife's stiffness and inflexibility and LOVE my zerker with all my little heart! They arent the same board, ride. Stop with the bullshit!

Then again, maybe its just me. Maybe it dies on teh setback because it was too short at 158 for my spacehopper fat ass. Stupid downsizing! i should have been on like a 162, obviously!
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Maybe I'm just not that good to notice the difference…..but a wee bit of foam or whatever they lodge in there just doesn't seem to matter when I'm running my 90+kg bulk down the hill :p pop or no pop! :D
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I really wanted to make my quiver killer my go-to deck in season 4 so had to learn to pop it. Its a great board, but if you cant pop it, its just really a mediocre charging board with sluggish end to end. Its really meant for air. Everything else is designed around the concept of it flying ;)

Not sure if thats the point of the Highlife. Cant really remember, I know it was in with a shout before the demo purely from the powder tweaks. On the ride though it just felt stiff and bulky. It was about as damp a board as id ever felt though and fast as all hell. Pop walls made it enjoyable on top of that. Would have loved to have seen it in the pow.
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