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Are you suggesting I force my kid to do cross country?! ;) I wish she paid that much attention to what I say :lol:

It's all her choice. Day to day, its much less running about for us than the alpine skiing club would be, but there are more races and so more work at weekends.

She gets to practice on the Olympic course, so the facilities are incredible. The club also has a strong record of producing champions. It being a minor sport helps, of course.

As exercise goes, it burns more calories than anything else, even swimming, so it's good for her. She's a third year now, and they start doing races on the longer courses with the big climbs. Going downhill on them skinny skis is pretty hairy too. The men's races get up to 70-80km/h on them.
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Even being so close to Mt Granview?!

:veryshocked:
I have skied at Mt Granview.

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:lol:

Well I know plenty of kids here who don't enjoy their daily bukatsu activities, but still do them. So that's kind of what I was asking.



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 Wizz, on 23 October 2014 - 11:33 AM, said:

Even being so close to Mt Granview?!

:veryshocked:


Unimaginable isn't it!

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 sapporo, on 22 October 2014 - 10:38 PM, said:

 Black Mountain, on 21 October 2014 - 09:30 PM, said:

Locals should have to pay more. Especially for things like seasons passes. It's not as if they're going to drive somewhere further away. The inflated prices for locals can subsidize the free tickets for out-of-towner's kids thus bringing in more business and revenue.


Not sure that would work?!
The locals are the ones that visit on none-powder and none-bluebird days and probably, none-weekends!! So surely they are the ones that bring the money in the most (including restaurants, lockers, ski/board shops @ the resort) as opposed to out-of-town families? Wouldn't make much sense to piss of your local customers by charging them more!


They visit on non-powder and non-bluebird days using a season pass. All I ever hear from locals is how good the season ticket value is for them because they go so often. How much extra money does a lift company get from that? Locals also tend to only do half days which means they don't eat at the restaurants, or use lockers, etc. Even when they do full days they make/bring their own food. They also certainly don't stay at any of the accommodation near the resorts. People from out of town probably spend more in one trip than locals spend all season. Anyway, I guess I should have included a ;) , since I wasn't being serious in my previous post.

Here's another one just in case ;)
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People can choose to live in the city or live near a ski resort, it's a choice right?

I spoke with one guy from a ski resort about this kind of thing last year. He said that it was good for locals to be there mid-week, even if they are not "spending" as such - a lively place is better than a dead feeling place.

Locals like myself also effectively "spread the word" about places, and I don't mean in an official/paid way. People have seen my photos and wanted to go "there". I don't think I'm meaningless to the local skijo even if I go on a freebie and don't buy curry-rice.

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;)

( ;) )

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Perhaps I should add... there have only been very rare freebies for me as a local here. There should be more! :grandpa:
The most freebies have been a number of lift tickets courtesy of SnowJapan over the years.

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 muikabochi, on 23 October 2014 - 11:34 AM, said:

:lol:

Well I know plenty of kids here who don't enjoy their daily bukatsu activities, but still do them. So that's kind of what I was asking.


My eldest is in elementary and I don't think bukatsu are compulsory at that age in many schools. As with the uniforms and the rote learning for tests, I think it gets properly cranked up at JHS.
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One thing I have noticed is that some resorts offer discounts to people who are from the local area or same prefecture. Others offer discounts to people from specific areas on different days. I think Charmant even offers discounts to people from different parts of the world on different days...

Season passes are laughably cheap at most resorts too. Especially if people opt for the early-bird discounts. A place like cortina only charges 30,000Y for an early-bird season pass, which means you only have to go 9 times before you have started saving money. They should charge more.
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My season pass this year will only cost me 20000 as I joined the local ski club last year.
So I doubt the resort will make much if any money from me, especially as most times I bring my own food if I do a full day.
Most locals that ski a lot also have season passes.
The resorts I would think make more money from non locals just travelling up now and again, if not the resorts the local ski town certainly does.
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Sun meadows again mostly, which is just up the road from me.
Only a small resort, but it is very close, easy to get to and I know a lot of people there.
So I will have a pass for there and then adventure out now and again to bigger resorrs.

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How far is just up the road? 300m?

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Interesting to see that Rusutsu have introduced IC chip readers this year, season tickets haven't gone up (I don't think) I wonder if day tickets have, to cover the cost of the new system?
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 sapporo, on 18 October 2014 - 08:15 AM, said:

Rusutsu has introduced a new *IC Chip card* system from this season, with a returnable deposit of ¥500 for the card.

A day lift pass is ¥5,500



From a week or so ago...

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 HighlyTrainedExNovaTeacher, on 25 October 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

How far is just up the road? 300m?


Lol 300 metres would be in my back garden.
About a 15 - 20 min drive, which to me is just up the road.

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Nice big garden there.

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 sapporo, on 25 October 2014 - 03:59 PM, said:

 sapporo, on 18 October 2014 - 08:15 AM, said:

Rusutsu has introduced a new *IC Chip card* system from this season, with a returnable deposit of ¥500 for the card.

A day lift pass is ¥5,500



From a week or so ago...

:doh:

Is that up from last year?
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I've got ¥5000 in my head, def an expensive place to go!







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