#257928 - Wed Feb 06 2008 08:22 PM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: bellavista]
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The majority of avalanches happen on slopes that average 25 to 35 degrees.
That statement is incorrect. The vast majority of avalanches occur on slopes averaging 35-45 degrees. How far do you have to tip your plate until the pancakes come a tumbling?  The average intermediate run at a resort is 30°, and an advanced 35°. Avalanches generally occur on slopes between 32°-45°, but are certainly not limited to this range. Lower angle slopes are safer since gravitys effect will be diminished. Very steep slopes, because they are so steep, are also less prone to slide since snow tends to slough off naturally never having the chance to form a slab. (Steep terrain still slides frequently, however, and is way more dangerous than low angle.) Also to consider is that the lower the altitude the steeper the angle that avalanches occur - meaning that this range varies (+/- 5° to 8°) from sea level to about 5000 meters. - European skiing ranges from a few hundred metres above sea level in
Norway (e.g.180m (590ft) at Lillehammer) to over 3800m (12450 ft) at
Chamonix's Aiguille du Midi. In North American, some of the highest
skiing can be found at nearly 4000m (13000ft) at Colorado's Arapahoe.
Avalanches at 25° are possible but I would imagine them to be extremely rare! All said and done Mama's statement was indeed not so "stupid!"
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#257942 - Wed Feb 06 2008 09:49 PM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: Tesselator]
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Since we are all commenting on how bad I am at grammar,,, lets actually check your reading comprehension! FT said as he quotes himself MB that was an idiot comment period Now did I call her an idiot or are you smoking crack! All those that can actually read English please read English. I might not be able to write but I can read! I never posted to you the guy above and to be frank haven't read a thing you have said until the rant you put in where you quoted BackCountry.coms newsletter.
Edited by Fattwins (Wed Feb 06 2008 09:51 PM)
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#257947 - Wed Feb 06 2008 11:33 PM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: Fattwins]
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A quote from Mamabear that is stupid!
Yes, you ARE on drugs. The info is in and the jury is out. No one said anything about the word "idiot". Who are you having this conversation with? I mean is says in the header that it's a reply to me (or I would just be watching and laughing at you) but your comments if they are in reply to me, DO NOT make any sense - at all. Now, don't get me wrong. I don't want to say you're bad or anything like that but I seriously think you need help. Either that or your browser is busted. Or mine is... 
Edited by Tesselator (Wed Feb 06 2008 11:35 PM)
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#257952 - Thu Feb 07 2008 05:01 AM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: Tesselator]
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A quote from Mamabear that is stupid!
Yes, you ARE on drugs. The info is in and the jury is out. No one said anything about the word "idiot". Who are you having this conversation with? I mean is says in the header that it's a reply to me (or I would just be watching and laughing at you) but your comments if they are in reply to me, DO NOT make any sense - at all. Now, don't get me wrong. I don't want to say you're bad or anything like that but I seriously think you need help. Either that or your browser is busted. Or mine is... The reason it says to you in the header of FT's surf post is merely because you were the last poster in the thread when FT pressed "reply". You'll see that Kumapix actually comes between you and FT, but if you check the post times of Kumapix and FT they are close together, meaning that at the actual time of pressing the reply button you would have been the latest post. Not only that, but in his reply FT specifically mentions Indo by name as the person he is addressing. I have no interest in the argument at all but accusing poeple of being on drugs because you don't have a firm grip on how ze interweb works (not that there's anything wrong with that) is a little strong for me. As you were.
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#257953 - Thu Feb 07 2008 05:01 AM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: timcraig]
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Tesselator I think you have your wires crossed. I am pretty sure Fat Twins has not been directing his responses at you for the most part. In this forum it is easy to put in a new post by clicking reply to the last post. I think this is what FT has done a few times and you have taken it as meaning that his remarks were purposefully directed at you.
For example the comments about going into surf threads and commenting were actually directed at Indo, but because you had posted after Indo had and this moved the forum on to a new page it was easier to simply click reply to your message than go back and reply to Indo's. So although the post title said it was a reply to you it really wasn't. Get it?? For the most part the title saying who someone is replying to is incorrect as everyone really just replies to the last post regardless. I think this has been a bit confusing for you and made you feel the remarks were directed at you. Oh... beaten to the mark...
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#258003 - Thu Feb 07 2008 08:26 AM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: Kingofmyrrh]
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how much more bandwith will this banter take up?
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#258006 - Thu Feb 07 2008 08:44 AM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: Oyuki kigan]
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just a bit more
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#258072 - Thu Feb 07 2008 12:48 PM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: Stuntcok]
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I want to set the record straight. The VAST majority of avis occur on slopes between 0 and 90 degrees. I am going to disagree here. All avis occur on "slopes" between 0.01 and 89.99 degrees.  But, now I am wondering if you are in the land of Oz, do the avis happen on slopes between 90.01 and 179.99 degrees? 
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#258085 - Thu Feb 07 2008 01:29 PM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
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avies are a myth.
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