#256965 - Fri Feb 01 2008 07:50 AM
Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
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SJ'er with 300+ posts
Registered: Thu Dec 15 2005
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Loc: Hong Kong,上水
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I just had a look at " Hakuba Now", there is said today: ******Pay extreme caution - person buried in avalanche yesterday. Yesterday a rider was completely buried after a friend above him set of a slab avalanche and was found by a beacon search 5 minutes later. This avalanche triggered on a south facing ridge. Not a bowl, not a face, a ridge. Without beacons, gear, knowledge and experience this would be a much sadder story. Pay extreme caution!*********I got 2 questions about it: 1. Where did/does it happen? On the slopes or somewhere remote in areas were you are not supposed to go in the first place? I will stick to slopes and seldom go to very nearby ungroomed ares, but wouldn't move far off or into mountain areas. 2. What's a beacon? Sounds like a transmitter or transponder device. PS: I am glad there was a happy end.
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#257037 - Fri Feb 01 2008 12:49 PM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: Fattwins]
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Registered: Mon Nov 13 2006
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Loc: Yamagata
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Ironically, the most experienced people in the world are the most likely to get caught in a slide.
Experience comes from exposure.
And exposure is not the scientific part of avi-science.
Edited by samurai (Fri Feb 01 2008 12:51 PM)
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#257402 - Mon Feb 04 2008 12:56 PM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: SG]
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SJ'er with 300+ posts
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There is another report today in " Hakuba Now" You may have already heard of the avalanche that happened at Tsugaike Ski area. This was a slide on the resort that slid from permanently closed terrain and ran across the cat track that was also closed do to avalanche hazard. There was a group of beginner snow boarders that ducked the rope into the cat track and was struck by the size 2.5 slide on the cat track. All people were found however 2 of the victims were taken off the mountain yesterday in comas and all reports state that they are still in coma.
The lesson to be learned here is that signs posting avalanche danger mean it! Stay out of these areas as it is not just yourselves that you are putting at risk it is others on slopes below as well.I will not enter closed ares! I will not enter closed ares! I will not enter closed ares! I wish all a fast recovery! Thanks to SJF to remind us that winter sport has its dangers too. It's good to keep that awareness alive and still have fun.
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#257407 - Mon Feb 04 2008 01:16 PM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: Kraut_in_HongKong]
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Registered: Sun Nov 04 2007
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..... group of beginner snow boarders that ducked the rope into the cat track and was struck by the size 2.5 slide on the cat track.... Aye Carumba! What were they thinking!!?? This has been exactly my point in previous threads about beginners and BC Beginners who ride in area's of greater risk than a groomer without LEARNING about the stuff they are riding on. Being of minimal knowledge they make decisions that someone with vast knowledge of the risks of that day would never make. They are LUCKY - is all I can say. They are not dead.
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#257408 - Mon Feb 04 2008 01:24 PM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: Mamabear]
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Registered: Sun Nov 04 2007
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Loc: Perth Western Australia
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OTARI, Nagano -- A female university student who had been in a coma after being hit by an avalanche at a ski field here died on Monday morning, while another female student remains in a coma, police said.
Investigators are questioning two ski instructors who held a lesson for seven students including the two in an off-piste zone at the Tsugaike Kogen ski ground in Otari, Nagano Prefecture, on Sunday afternoon, on suspicion of professional negligence resulting in death and injury.
Aki Ogi, 20, a sophomore student at Aichi University from Toyohashi, Aichi Prefecture, died on Monday morning, while another sophomore, Mayu Otake, 20, from Chiryu, Aichi Prefecture, remains in a coma.
The two fell unconscious after being trapped in an avalanche while taking a ski lesson at the Tsugaike Kogen ski field at around 2 p.m. on Sunday. The group was part of 79 students who were to take part in the university's ski lessons slated to be held between Thursday last week and Monday.
Rescue officials said the off-piste zone where the two instructors held the lesson was prone to avalanches. On Sunday, approximately 20 centimeters of snow fell in the area. OK I take it all back! Just read this from Samui over in the Avie/BC forum!! You would presume that you were safe in a lesson - they were doing the right thing having a lesson. And the girl is now dead. Terribly sad! Sometimes it is safer to take a harder route down than take the beginners trail into harms way huh? Nothing wrong with making your way down safe on your heels as opposed to linking beautful turns into a wipeout!
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#257420 - Mon Feb 04 2008 01:44 PM
Re: Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
[Re: Samui Kitsune]
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Registered: Thu Aug 30 2007
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Loc: Osaka
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My news article was about a different avalanche. It is really big news in Japan today. It is hard for me to tell whether the instructors were University Ski Instructors or Resort Instructors. I think you're talking about the Hiroshima avi.
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