Thats what its about GN, yes you know best. My comments to Thursday was, he has been no where else, so he couldnt even know a difference about anything. You really took the time to read up on this one. Thx for the repeat comment as usual.

yes, nightas in Niseko are quite epic.

caveat: dont take thurs advice - his one resort experience doesnt count

I read the whole thread fattwins and Thurs merely commented on how amazing nightas are in Niseko. Whether or not he has been to other resorts is beside the point (even if he wants to claim Niseko is the best). Whether or not he received much snow during his last trip here was also totally besides the point. Or what because on one his trips he didn't get much snow means that he can't comment on how good the night skiing is? I'm just wondering why you feel the need to be the forum censor on any comments on Niseko, especially considering you've never been here?

Also if your point is that Thurs can't make the comments he did because he hasn't been to other resorts then I am somewhat astounded by your hypocrisy. The amount of comments you've made about Niseko over the last few years even though you've never been here are testament to this.

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No you didnt read GN. Good old thursday used his wisdom and knowledge of Japanese ski resort to claim that only Niseko would be installing lifts for the next century. Thursday then brought his BS to 3 or 4 different threads. I showed thursday that other resorts in Japan had ordered and installed lifts.

So you didnt read yet you are commenting. so go on read some more for me.

my hypocrisy give me a break dude, he didnt get snow yet he is saying that it will be a powder laden heaven at the nighta.

Alas, you're fighting a losing battle there Go Native (though the consistently bitter snappy outbursts in return can be rather amusing to read of course...)

Back on topic, we got an email from a hotel we stayed at last winter to tell us that - sorry - prices are going up 10% for this winter.

Wait a minute, wait a minute -- are you telling me that this Fattwins character has never actually even been to Niseko? (I was convinced that he had extensive experience of the place, given the amount of comment he has posted on the subject).

I stand corrected. Sorry I was unaware that I was supposed to read every thread on this forum to understand your comments in this one.

Still about the snow thing, frankly you're just being ridiculous. All ski resorts on this planet have periods when it snows and periods when it doesn't. And all have good and bad years. Niseko is lucky enough that even it's worst season on record still recorded an annual snowfall amount in excess of 7m which would be considered pretty damn good at most other ski areas on the planet. To suggest that because on one of his trips it didn't snow means that Thurs should not make a comment about deep powder nightas is as I said just plain ridiculous.

And if you're unable to see your hypocrisy when you criticize others for making comments about places they haven't been to then you really need to dial down the arrogance a little man. Your knowledge about resorts and backcountry in your region is extensive and valued highly but your constant criticism of all things Niseko really does lose you a lot of respect on these forums.

Thursday seems to be getting a bit of stick because had the temerity to make this claim without having racked up time at other resorts around Japan. Is anyone seriously suggesting that there is a better nighta experience in Japan?

Yes, of course. Hakuba is better in every respect. You don't need to leave Hakuba to know this. Simply being in Hakuba gives extra-special powers.

not everyone in Hakuba....
has mentioned before Happos nighta is pretty damn ordinary, Goryu has a long run but not too challenging.
Naeba used to have a very good nighta but havent been for years.

Im not taking a shot at Niseko Im taking a shot at someone who always floats out crap.

Best in the world nighta
you can make 1000 dollars a night for 200 days if you invest in an apartment
There are no places that have good accommodation.
The list goes on.

Its a revolving door of endless quotes and yet he has nothing to compare it to. If i was taking a shot I wouldve said alot more.

Thurs may exagerate a little on occasion but those of us who live here and know the area are just as capable to curb some of the excesses that get posted here from time to time.

"Huge flakes falling silently on the already fallen foot of powder since you went for dinner. Nobody on the slopes, just you and the golden lit snow. And you wonder if you have died, 'cos you know you're in heaven "

This may be bullshit to some people. But this is how I remember it and that is one of the things that draw me back year after year.

Last season's snow was a miss for me, but that won't stop me going back.

Don't worry Thurs I've had a few nights like that myself. You feel like you've got the whole mountain to yourself and words just can't do justice to the quality of the snow. It's true though that it can be damned cold (face mask very recommended!).

I thought it was very poetic.

nah, it doesn't even rhyme

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That sounds all so romantic!



As one who has also sat on that cold cold nighta's lift (Thank God for BUFFS!) I remember it similarly. You can ride the lift just yourself, or with a pal - no need to capacity pack coz there is no queue... at the top you can sit and take a moment to draw in the serentity and peacefulness - the sheer beauty of Japanese Winter...and then off you go on a fairly well deserted slope. Nighta's do tend to give you decent visibility, and for me - as someone trying out new skills - it was a perfect time to try things I might choose not to on a more crowded daytime slope.

The only night skiing I have to compare to (at this stage) is Aus - and Niseko wins hands down. Hopefully it wont be too long before I have some other night experiences elsewhere to add to the mix.

No one said that it didnt happen before but you write it like it happens 100% of the time. The you say it is the best in the world yet how many night sking resorts have you been to? Try the east of Canada and see some of the crazy stuff they open at night.

Like to know how you come to that conclusion. Didn't come across to me like that at all. People have just recalled some of the perfect moments they've experienced. The fact that Niseko has a lot of perfect moments for many people is just another reason why it's so damned popular