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#261260 - Wed Feb 27 2008 04:50 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: BagOfCrisps]
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I was more commenting on triptaka's comment, not the EXCELLENT TR.

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#261261 - Wed Feb 27 2008 04:51 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: thursday]
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(I think we owe another one too don't we?) ;\)
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#261268 - Wed Feb 27 2008 05:04 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: 2pints,mate]
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2PM, no offence intended to your host but I stand my comment that it would be hypocritical of the Japanese locals being overly suspicious of "foreign investors." Like I said, the prefecture (including hakuba) has been a source of Japan's most deep-seated corruption post-WW2. Japanese themselves are well aware of it. Attitudes and practices here don't change fast, and there is a lot of complicity. There will be other Japan-based foreigners who should know what I'm talking about it. So, yes, I feel it's a bit ripe for any Japanese being "overly" suspicous of foreign intentions.

Any foreign shadeys in Hakuba will probably be operating on a low level. We're not talking the Gambino family here.

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#261271 - Wed Feb 27 2008 05:08 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: thursday]
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 Originally Posted By: thursday.
change may not be inevitable, but when it comes and comes rapidly, locals will feel that they have missed the boat or feel hard done by with foreigners milking the cash cow that perhaps had always been there but not exploited.



I find that almost laughable. The locals made a killing during the bubble era. The foreigners are picking up the pieces from the drunken orgy.

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#261272 - Wed Feb 27 2008 05:09 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: tripitaka]
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No offence taken.
Think what you want mate.... obviously you will!!
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#261274 - Wed Feb 27 2008 05:16 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: tripitaka]
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 Originally Posted By: tripitaka
 Originally Posted By: thursday.
change may not be inevitable, but when it comes and comes rapidly, locals will feel that they have missed the boat or feel hard done by with foreigners milking the cash cow that perhaps had always been there but not exploited.



I find that almost laughable. The locals made a killing during the bubble era. The foreigners are picking up the pieces from the drunken orgy.


yes, go ahead, you're obviously the expert.

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#261275 - Wed Feb 27 2008 05:20 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: 2pints,mate]
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 Originally Posted By: 2pints,mate
No offence taken.
Think what you want mate.... obviously you will!!


I'll be open-minded about it. I guess a bit of suspicion is normal.

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#261276 - Wed Feb 27 2008 05:27 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: tripitaka]
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Thursday, trust me, I'm definitely not an expert on the economics if Japanese resorts, but I know enough to see a familiar pattern in Hokkaido, Nagano and Miyazaki.

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#261277 - Wed Feb 27 2008 05:29 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: tripitaka]
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Well after that slightly bizarre and irrelevant interlude, lets get back on topic.....

\:\)
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#261279 - Wed Feb 27 2008 05:37 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: BagOfCrisps]
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Good report Bag!
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#261280 - Wed Feb 27 2008 05:55 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: rach]
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Nice to read that. One day I would like to get to Hakuba, Shiga Kogon and Nozawa Onson.

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We’d both like to check out Nisoko while they still at least understand the Japanese language there



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#261287 - Wed Feb 27 2008 06:43 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: Journey Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Journey Man
Cool TR! Thanks.

How about basing yourself out of Asahikawa next time? Very few people so virtually no Gaijin and the lightest pow ever...


Whats Asahikawa like as a city/town in terms of jobs and stuff. I've often thought of getting out of dodge in the future and looked at places in Hokkaido, obviously Sapporo as its the biggest city and will have more jobs but Asahikawa interests me due to its proximity to quality ski fields


good write up lads, hope you don't get too glum looking out the office window at grey old London!
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#261330 - Thu Feb 28 2008 08:02 AM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: Tubby Beaver]
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Good one BagOfCrisps. I generally agree with your scores and feel the same way about all the places. All good.
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#261395 - Thu Feb 28 2008 12:39 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: BagOfCrisps]
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Good one mate.
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#261480 - Thu Feb 28 2008 08:57 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: BagOfCrisps]
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I enjoyed reading that cheers.

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#261495 - Fri Feb 29 2008 04:14 AM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: base40]
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Thanks folks. (And thanks to Bag for doing the writing!)
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#261512 - Fri Feb 29 2008 05:00 AM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: 2pints,mate]
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Yes. But you need to write 'the other one', 2pints ;\)
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#261544 - Fri Feb 29 2008 09:47 AM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: BagOfCrisps]
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Good report.

I bet a trip around Tohoku will be fun. Will you be renting a car?

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#261653 - Sat Mar 01 2008 06:45 AM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: Snow-Woman]
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Oh yes I think so.
But then again.... no firm plans yet.
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#261683 - Sat Mar 01 2008 03:20 PM Re: TR: Our trip to Japan (Hakuba, Shiga Kogen & Nozawa) [Re: BagOfCrisps]
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That was interesting to read thank you for sharing your experiences. I have never been to Tohoku myself but by all accounts it is a very attractive area.

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