Ditto for wine - most of the wine I've had/ am currently having comes in a box and is pretty decent at 700 yen per liter.

Back on topic though: reckon as snowjunky said, unless you're skinning or walking uphill, then jogging is the better workout. The downtime on lifts and waiting in line is probably what skews the data.

Cheers Pieman

If only jogging were less tedious than it is.

Found a gym not too far away that has one of those machines in it/.



Tonight I will give it a go.

This is what the bike looks like



Lots of different programs

Skiing versus jogging ? No contest...

The funny thing is that despite burning 600 cals + per hour for about 6 hours a day when I'm in Niseko for 4 days, I always come back having put on weight. Must be I overcompensate by stuffing my face at breakfast, lunch and dinner.

"I'll burn it off anyway"

600 calories an hour for 6 hours!!, Skidaiski you are a machine.
Machines should not put on weight

Interval workouts are really good for skiing, either running, biking, or xcountry ski machines do the trick. 2 mins on, 2 mins off, try that for 40,50, or 60 mins. If you think about it, you dont ski for 5-10 mins straight, so I like the 2 on, 2 off workouts to get ready for ski season.

As for whats a better workout, Id say swimming hands down, but I like it because there is no impact on my body. The way I run or mtn bike, would prolly differ from others, so its how youre doing it, rather than what youre doing, which is prolly more important.

if you want a killer workout in 20-30 mins try crossfit dot com. You will have one of the hardest workouts of your life. So many workouts you can do in your house, hotel room, or in a park...doesnt cost you a cent to learn how to do them.

snowjunky, trouble is I seem to be an eating machine when I'm on ski trips as well...

The 600 kcal / hr was the figure I read further up this thread. I have my doubts

Got something like that at the gym I go to. It sure does help keep you going with something to look at other than sweaty macho guys!

An observation

Got back recently from 2 weeks skiing in Oz.
Ski'd around 7 hours every day and came home feeling super fit.

The next day had a game of park cricket with the kids & found my legs felt like lead when trying to run (stumble actually)

Has anyone else found this?
Are the leg muscles used so different or is this just an old fart's complaint?

old fart's complaint

Thanks for the diagnosis Thurs, but I am hoping for a second opinion mon

old farts complaint!!

yeah sorry snowjunky... I am sufferring also...that makes it an old farts complaint!

yeah thanks for that second opinion Tubbs
Makes me feel a lot, well...........older

On reflection I think the message here is SKI (or board), Dont Run.

Swimming man ... 1000m in about 20 min. Easy pace.
You want hard impact? 15min game of squash.
You gonna run, do circuit training including lots of short sprints.

Squash, good game.
I wish there were more courts in Japan.
When I was younger I lived in the UK and played a lot of squash.

Are there more squash courts or tennis courts in Japan?