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#318953 - Fri Jul 03 2009 08:13 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) ***** [Re: big-will]
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what a joke. And it ain't even April.

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#318959 - Fri Jul 03 2009 08:41 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: big-will]
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You have to think this is a massive step down from Tevez.

I kind of supported Owen until this past season where he was the epitome of someone not giving a flying one about the Newcastle cause. For an experienced pro who has been made captain to put in so little effort is completely crap. Even Viduka made him look like a passenger. He also missed a few sitters during the Shearer cameo there at the end. He'll do better with better players around him, but how much better is hard to say. I think they'd be better off with Obafemi Martins even.

(ROFL LOLZ though at ManYoo fans who sneered at Ronaldo and Tevez and assumed they were going to instantly sign worldbeaters)

PS. You can have Joey Barton too!
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#318960 - Fri Jul 03 2009 08:47 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: Mr Wiggles]
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Don't know about Massive (though he is joining Citeh), but can't say it's up either.

For the love of god or whoever, no Joey Barton.
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#318961 - Fri Jul 03 2009 08:56 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: grungy-gonads]
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well, he's free, so just have to pay him his 12.50 asking wage. or just pay him per appearence.

What a downer.

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#318962 - Fri Jul 03 2009 09:00 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: thursday]
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Yes. I say throw him 100 quid a week then some bonuses per goal.
See if that gets him in shape.
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#318964 - Fri Jul 03 2009 09:45 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: grungy-gonads]
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No-one else will take Owen I guess, it saves him a bit of face going to big club, and he may even get some winners medals. he will be obviously be a passenger most of the time though.

He will also become even more unpopular with scousers if he goes there.

I strongly dislike him for his disloyalty in fleeing to Real for peanuts so he could win a trophy (we won champions league that next season).

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#318965 - Fri Jul 03 2009 09:47 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: bobby12]
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Lots of noise about Mascherano going to Barca, I really hope we dont lose him. I think he is a really key player for us, he usually started in the away games where we did so well.

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#318966 - Fri Jul 03 2009 10:13 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: bobby12]
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still no confirmed reports. I'm hoping this is just a media feeding frenzy

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#318968 - Fri Jul 03 2009 10:17 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: big-will]
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I have a feeling it's true.

Just hope we are all wrong and surprised!!
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#318974 - Fri Jul 03 2009 01:01 PM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: rach]
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I think it's jolly funny.

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#318987 - Fri Jul 03 2009 02:11 PM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: 2pints,mate]
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MO ain't too popular in the pool.

Here's 365s take

* United require another attacker. To start the season with just two youngsters as support two recognised top-class strikers would be a risk too far. In comparison, signing Michael Owen on a free transfer is no risk at all. A proven goalscorer who is presumably joining United in the knowledge that he will start the season behind Wayne Rooney and Dimi Berbatov in the pecking order, Owen is the perfect fit for what United require.


Not incidentally, it was mostly from the bench that Owen scored his 13 La Liga goals during his single season at Real Madrid, ending the campaign with the league's highest ratio of goals scored to number of minutes played.


* Signing the 5ft 8 Owen would balance United's attacking options. Berbatov, Danny Welbeck and Macheda are all big 'uns while Rooney is the only little 'un. True enough, Owen and Rooney failed to dovetail convincingly on England duty but that potential problem may be irrelevant: Ferguson probably has no intention of playing them together.


* If it is true that he has agreed a pay-as-you-play deal with a series of performance-related bonuses attached then Owen has passed the first, pivotal test. With Everton reputedly ready to offer him a far-superior weekly wage of 」65,000, Owen's willingness to accept the incentivised deal on offer at Old Trafford indicates that he still has the required ambition and hunger to succeed.


Furthermore, Owen has not only proved himself to the club's manager but also made his transfer a risk-free venture for the board to approve. Nor can the club's owners dissent: By joining on a Bosman free on knock-down wages, Owen's arrival would not conflict with the reported age limit of 25 imposed on new purchases.


* If those performance-related clauses aren't incentive enough, then the proximity of next summer's World Cup should be sufficient to a player who has lost part of his name. England's Michael Owen will be desperate to reclaim his place and his recall will only be possible if he makes a success of his first year at Old Trafford.


* Ahh, yes, the injuries. Don't you think that Sir Alex might be aware of them as well, though? Before signing, Owen will first have to sign a medical that is being universally described as 'stringent'. That should help allay a few of the doubts. Moreover, it is not as if Owen's body is fundamentally broken; he is not in recovery from a career-threatening knee injury or leg break. Instead, his career has been blighted in recent years by a series of annoying, inconvenient happenstance injuries - he missed the start of last season, for instance, with the mumps. And if there is one medical department in the world that is likely to put him on the road to recovery then it is in residence at Old Trafford.


* There are few more potent goalscorers in world football, never mind England. Even at Newcastle he continued to be prolific: the stat his critics fail to include when remarking disdainfully that he only started 58 league games for Newcastle is that he also managed to score 26 goals in that time.


* And that was when playing for a struggling team, sometimes in midfield, and as a poacher.


The retort to the argument that Owen's pace has gone is that it was going even before he joined Real Madrid and it is precisely because Owen has morphed into a penalty-box predator that he is such a viable acquisition for a leading club. In a side near the bottom of the table, a predator is a luxury because he has so little to feed on. In a side challenging for the title, as United inevitably will be, he is in his element.


* A former European Footballer of the Year with the experience of playing for Real Madrid, Liverpool and England, Owen will not be overawed by the pressure of playing for United. And as a native of the north-west, he'll have no problems settling in either.


* United have previously enjoyed bountiful success by signing strikers at the finale of their career - and the precedent set by Henrik Larsson and Teddy Sheringham will undoubtedly have been an encouragement to Sir Alex.


* The arrival of an Englishman will also be useful if FIFA succeed in bringing forward their plan to introduce a 'six plus five' quota.


* Owen loves the horses. In other words, he'll be the perfect companion for Sir Alex on the team bus.


* Liverpool fans are going to hate it if he joins United. Especially as the Law of Returning Players means he is absolutely guaranteed to score against them next season.
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#318996 - Fri Jul 03 2009 03:27 PM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: scouser]
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Oh how we will laugh.
Hope he signs today.
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#319007 - Fri Jul 03 2009 04:28 PM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: BagOfCrisps]
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Former England striker has arrived at Manchester United's training ground as his move to the Premier League champions moves closer.
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#319009 - Fri Jul 03 2009 04:38 PM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: BagOfCrisps]
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Yep looks like it is on - seen arriving at Carrington.
Very interesting, if nothing else!

And City have been after Terry is seems. Hands off! slap
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#319018 - Fri Jul 03 2009 06:44 PM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: 2pints,mate]
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I don't make a habit of wishing people to fail.
But I hope he fails.
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#319021 - Fri Jul 03 2009 08:23 PM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: scouser]
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Not nearly as much as the Newcastle fans do, I'd imagine.

After being widely mocked for printing the brochure, Owen's a good player again now Fergie's interested. It's an amazing turnaround.
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#319024 - Sat Jul 04 2009 07:31 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: Mr Wiggles]
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You know, though, as laughable as the idea was yesterday it might just turn out to be an inspired move. And if it isn't with the incentive based pay it's not much of a gamble really for United is it. All very intersting but as you say Mr Wiggles an amazing turnaround.
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#319036 - Sat Jul 04 2009 08:30 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: pie-eater]
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#319039 - Sat Jul 04 2009 09:16 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: bobby12]
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He must be shocked at how things have gone the last few days.
He's going to have a ton of pressure on him to perform though, will sure be interesting to see how it all turns out.
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#319041 - Sat Jul 04 2009 09:43 AM Re: The FOOTBALL Thread (2009-2010) [Re: big-will]
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