I was wondering if anybody has had any experience with either of these skis ?

thanks

What are the dimensions?

M:10 - 127-74-111
Tweak - 102 78 108 - twin tip

uhhh
Tweak is 108 - 78 - 102

Sounds skinny

I have no idea

The tweaks arent bad but they arent the best twintip on the market. what are you looking for in the ski?

looking for something that can be used on/off piste - i ski in new zealand and plan on returning to japan for a month next year.

Would like to do some BC stuff, haven't yet but plan to in NZ.

I'm (almost) happy to buy 2 pairs of ski, one for on piste and off piste from lifts and one for park/hiking - if I can get them cheap end of season.

of course, any other ski suggestion would be appreciated - especially if it can be purchased online

are you a twintip skier?
for a one ski quiver id look for a 80 to 85 mm waist ski.

a 2 ski quiver one ski 75 to 80mm waist and 90 to 100mm waist for powder.
Where are you located now?

Sava, Im sure if you sweet talked to Fattwins he could sell you an old pair of his midfats - Gawd, hes only got 15 pairs :rolleyes:

Fattwins: I'm not a twintip skier, but i'd like to be - I'm not used to the 90-100 mm waists though, i've demoed k2 public enemy and the stockli snake. I was considering going with the M:10 + a 90+, but I don't have any experience with 90+ so I have no idea what to look for

Located in Aus currently.

Yamakashi: He might not need his cold night and then warm morning with exactly 2" snow with a firm base skis

Got bored and did a ring around of stores near me, none of them have anything 90mm+ there's very little market for it in Aus apparently.

FF, what bout giving that link with Mt. Lion's info? Lots of stuff there to look at

sava many questions many different ways of thinking.

I truely believe the best all round balnaced one ski quiver is 80mm under foot. I dont like gimmks on my skis either. damping the ski just adds dollars to the ski. 90mms in a soft ski like a seth pistol, Sally, line, or a fisher will give a great powder ski that is forgiving and will preform GS turns at speed. Do not think that they will be good in the bumps they wont be great in the bumps.

I find that dynastar builds a great ski for all round sking look to a legend 88 or around 80 for everything. I love my dynastars. I tour on them. 88mm waists and they rip corn snow like its butttterrrr. The powder is a piece of cake on them too, the steeper the better.

80 mm skis are the so called mid fat ski but dont think of it that way. they will carve good small and wide GS turns. Also give you floatation in the powder, last narrow enough to keep it together in tighter bumps.

Now stiff or soft here is the question?
Im all over the place on this right now.
Last season I was a stiff guy this season I dont know where I stand. I bought a pair of mid to soft flexing powder skis and found them to be prefect. granted they are 190s and 126 tip 96waist 122 tail skis. mighty fat but mighty damn fast in the powder. Very forgiving when landing jumps. Also they could rail the groomed no problems. That said Im only 172cms and 75kgs at my heaviest, mostly 72kgs. Thus this ski is a big ski for me.

Stiff if you get the right fit a stiff ski rails turns like no other. The problem is if its too stiff for you the ski controls you and you dont control it. My deep powders 135tip 115waist 125tail are stiff! they hate the groomed but love anything soft. they fly and can be pushed to very fast speeds.

For my park and touring skis I prefer a mid flexing ski. Why you just never know what your going to get in the BC. You need a balance of forgiveness and power. Park the same a stiff enough tail to pull out landings but soft enough not to snap you on your head. the ski should also have pop.

Damn that is alot.

Yes please!

When I google for mt lion, i get info on mountain lions or a mountain bike (http://www.trekbikes.co.jp/2002/ml60.html). Although if you look at that link, it offers:

"Kids - Check out other models"

no i can give you that info latter the guy sells used fat skis cheap with bindings

Fattwins: Thanks for such a good reply!

I understand and agree (without experience) with what you're saying. The main thing is currently to actually find someone who has the skis for a reasonable price, additionally, it's hard to demo in the southern winter for something to take to Japan ;(.

Add about 8 more sets of skis to FFs quiver here:

http://www.skijapanguide.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/4996.html

What a gear freak! But he got me my big@ss atomics on a diff. page of that thread

Yeah I may have to sell some to pay my car fine.
dude I feel so blue I need to make more money but I really like my job. Im at the crossroads dude I am so there.

mate, I feel for you bout that fine, but its not finalized yet is it? If its your first offense you might get off with the low figure you gave me...at least thats me being optimistic.

You should be in a diff. job anyways mate... but Ive said that before to ya. Lemme know bout Sunday once you speak with da rafting company eh.