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#293233 - Sun Nov 23 2008 10:44 PM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: Mamabear]
Mr Wiggles Offline
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From KLM's UK and Japanese websites

Dec 11 to Dec 17/19 (cheapest dates thereabout chosen)
Tokyo - London - Tokyo Cheapest fare= 134,000 yen

Dec 11 to Dec 17/19 (cheapest dates thereabout chosen)
London - Tokyo - London Cheapest fare=536 UKP (=80,000 yen)

Its low season both ways, but the Japanese fare is 70% more.

When we booked our flight, the pound was about 200, so it wasn't so noticeable.
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#293249 - Mon Nov 24 2008 09:11 AM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: Mamabear]
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They need to get that sorted.

Funny how it takes longer to bring prices down than it does to rise them. Or am I just imagining that?

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#293252 - Mon Nov 24 2008 09:46 AM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: -20.7]
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I think prices in Japan have not yet been adjusted to the newly strong yen.

For example, I wanted to buy some coffee beans at the weekend. I was thinking 'prices must be down a lot now the yen is so strong' but I found prices were exactly the same as 6 months ago! Surely anything imported should now be much cheaper to buy? Same goes for the airline tickets. I need to buy some tix for march but I think I will hang on until Jan to buy because I think the new fuel charge and strong yen needs to be factored into prices.

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#293275 - Mon Nov 24 2008 11:06 AM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: bobby12]
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Just as they needed gov approval for the fuel surcharge, the airlines are now getting approval to reduce the surcharge.

Slow gov beaurocrats.

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#293292 - Mon Nov 24 2008 01:19 PM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: thursday]
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Why would they need approval to reduce a charge?
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#293296 - Mon Nov 24 2008 01:26 PM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: brit-gob]
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their way of pushing the blame and delaying the reduction in the meantime.

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#293321 - Mon Nov 24 2008 05:48 PM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: thursday]
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This page from KLM is interesting, they have the surcharge info all laid out:
http://www.klm.com/travel/jp_en/travel_information/japan/fuel_surcharge.htm

I wonder what the current price is for jet fuel though.

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#293371 - Tue Nov 25 2008 08:53 AM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: bobby12]
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As ever as clear as muck.

Is there an English translation? wink
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#293377 - Tue Nov 25 2008 09:40 AM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: grungy-gonads]
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Thanks bobby. It clears up the charge, but still doesn't say why they have a cheap promotion at the UK end and no corresponding one in Japan for exactly the same service.

Basically, if you're going next spring, you should wait until after Jan 1 to book. That's when the surcharge will come down.

ANA's info is a bit easier to understand. After Jan 1, you save about 10,000 yen per long-haul flight with them.

http://www.anaskyweb.com/uk/e/ana_info/fuel/index.html
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#293392 - Tue Nov 25 2008 10:57 AM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: Mr Wiggles]
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Cathay, Sing, ANA, Nepal got their reduction granted. 45% short, 40% long.

Nepal Airline <------- can't wait to try them. razz

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#293413 - Tue Nov 25 2008 01:24 PM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: thursday]
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I've tried that one but it was local, from Jomson to Pokkara. Pleasant flight. We got roughed up a bit at the airport but that had nothing to do with the airline.
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#293478 - Tue Nov 25 2008 07:20 PM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: thursday]
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That was so funny I was reading it and it said Cathy, Sing, ANA and Nepal. NEPAL isn't that the national airline that carry people, pigs, lama's, chickens etc. I think they would have to pay me a surcharge to fly them OR I would have to refuel the plane myself to know that there was actually enough fuel in it for my flight. lol (my apologies to any nepalese natives I may have offend).

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#293522 - Wed Nov 26 2008 06:29 AM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: snowhunter]
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Quote:
I think they would have to pay me a surcharge to fly them


lol

Quote:
I would have to refuel the plane myself to know that there was actually enough fuel in it for my flight.


Actually, I read an article about the worry that some airlines in a bid to reduce costs will skimp on the volume of fuel on a flight to near dangerous levels.

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#293563 - Wed Nov 26 2008 12:18 PM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: snowhunter]
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Originally Posted By: snowhunter
That was so funny I was reading it and it said Cathy, Sing, ANA and Nepal. NEPAL isn't that the national airline that carry people, pigs, lama's, chickens etc. I think they would have to pay me a surcharge to fly them OR I would have to refuel the plane myself to know that there was actually enough fuel in it for my flight. lol (my apologies to any nepalese natives I may have offend).


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#293583 - Wed Nov 26 2008 12:59 PM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: thursday]
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#293740 - Thu Nov 27 2008 02:15 PM Re: Flight tickets - do they include any fuel anymore? [Re: Ezorisu]
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